What happens when a woman is fat and healthy, can prove (medically and athletically) that she is healthy, and advocates for Health at Every Size so that others can see by her example that health is something they can also achieve? The fat-haters go batshit with rage.
Ragen Chastain, of Dances with Fat is a corporate CEO, choreographer for and a principle dancer in Fat Bottom Cabaret, and a three-time National Champion partner dancer currently seeking her first World Professional title. She is very healthy, and very fit. When asked rude personal questions she posted the results of her medical exam, pictures of her feats of strength, and even videos of her dances. Most people, even when faced with this reality v/s their preconceived notions of “fat”, were either supportive or polite. Then there were the people who spewed venom like this:
You are a stupid bitch. You are a liar to say that you are fat and healthy, there’s no such thing. Nobody cares how flexible you are (this move isn’t even that hard) or how well you dance because you’re still a fucking fattass. I bet your ankle shattered 5 seconds after this was taken. If I see you in the street I will slap you across your triple chins you dumb fat bitch.
Wow. that is some nasty hate right there. Why such animosity? Why would the poster want to “slap” her, simply because of her weight? Ms. Chastain speculates that they may just be mad in response to cognitive dissonance; angry because she upsets their perception of what is real. Respectfully, I disagree. I think it is the vehement, albeit subconscious, defense of patriarchal hegemony in action.
This defense of patriarchy can come from the women who are benefitted (or hope to benefit from) subservience to the patriarchy, as well as men who benefit from (or hope to benefit from) the status quo. But their loathing of Ms. Chastain comes from their fear/rage that she represents a real, tangible challenge to the patriarchal ideal of femininity, which threatens the structure of the patriarchy as a whole.
To be a ‘good’ female in the Western hegemonic patriarchy you need to be thin. Everyone ignores the fact that thin can be genetically determined. Thin has been culturally constructed to mean that the person is self-controlled (and thus able to master her various appetites), hard-working, physically-fit, yet simultaneously ‘small’ and passive. Thin women are now ‘ideal’ women, or ‘good’ women. Beauty, in culture, reflects the ideal, so the ideal woman must at least look delicate, since her ‘smallness’ shows she meets all the criteria to be female. Women who are fat are not part of the patriarchal ideal because they ‘take up space’ without permission, they have clearly been feeding themselves (not exclusively taking care of others), and they are not ‘small’ to contrast with a ‘large’ masculinity. If women are pressured to be thin, they can be stopped from become ‘too big for their britches’ and resisting control. [If you want to get a bigger picture of the research and philosophy behind these claims, I recommend Susan Bordo’s Unbearable Weight, Naomi Wolf’s The Beauty Myth, and the edited volume Bodies Out of Bounds, to start with.]
In my opinion, the vitriol the posters showed toward Ms. Chastain came from their hatred of her unspoken resistance. She is not small, yet refuse to admit this makes her a ‘bad’ woman. She is not passive, she is both actively eating and actively living. She is not following the patricidal ideology, and therefore she is ‘bad’ and deserves to be ‘punished’.
Fat-haters are such asshats.

I’m glad that you are able to function well enough in your anger to publicly confront this hatred. It just makes me feel helpless. And the ones that are covert and sneaky in their hatred make me feel even more helpless. I need to change jobs right now and I can’t even face it because of the ways in which I provoke ‘cognitive dissonance’. I’m subject to fat-hate, religious-hate and political-hate.
I am responding to the asshats by becoming despondent.
I have read, and forgive me for not being able to attribute this, that the beauty ideal of a society is based on rarity. That is why beautiful women from the Renaissance are buxom and lush and pale. Most women were working hard (thin and/or muscular), often out in the fields (tanned), and rarely had a surplus of food. Now that food is not scarce for us, thin is deemed beautiful and ideal. So, while I’m not arguing against your argument that larger women are taking up more space and challenging the patriarchal hegemony, I’m not sure that that is what the thin ideal is about. Or at least not all that it is about. Rarity is often deemed beautiful and this seems to me to be a more driving force for the society ideal. I would say that thin=small and delicate so as not to be a challenge is more of a side benefit for the patriarchy.
Fat hate may be self-hate in some instances; it is also a “safe” hate as it is condoned by society at large. It is a human characteristic to assign “otherness” to a group so as to increase cohesion in the group one belongs to. The otherness of the not-group, in this case fat, then becomes a way to denounce, degrade, or vilify.
I wish you didn’t live as far away from me as you do as we could have some excellent discussions over a glass of wine, or amaretto and milk.
I also think that responses like that are not confined to something like fat-hate. It seems as if lashing out in anger and violent threats has become a common method of handling any sort of challenge. Any time you read any comments on any news or opinion piece, you can see evidence of this. It’s really depressing.
I agree with this. I hardly read political websites or even articles about politics any more because it seems the comment section is filled with people who don’t know how to discuss the issue in a reasonable manner. It’s all lashing out and blaming and vomiting vitriol and anger they can’t express in their offline worlds.
While it’s true that certain health problems are well correlated with obesity and that obesity due to poor diet and being sedentary is a rampant problem in the US, it’s also true that heavy people (like short ones, women, Muslims, and many others) endure bigotry and an abundance of unfair treatment. I think it’s tragic that we have a “one size fits all” point of view about so many things, like education, development, and body morphology. We all have natural setpoints, and if metrics of health like blood pressure, glucose tolerance, and so on are within healthy ranges, then it should not matter whether you fit somebody else’s preconception of how you “should” look. I say fuck ‘em.
The hatred is, obviously, unjustifiable.
Re “Health at Any Size,” though, I wonder if it’s at all important to distinguish between “health” and “fitness” and between current health and future health:
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It seems to me that many sportspeople are very fit in terms of how much they can exercise, how big their muscles are etc but if their activity is so intense that they end up with
* hamstring injuries – which in the most serious of cases can result in a torn hamstring (older players are most at risk because the hamstring becomes less flexible over time)
* torn anterior cruciate ligaments – which can occur when a player suddenly loses balance and twists their knee into an awkward position
* broken bones – particularly in the feet and legs (NHS)
or repeated concussions which lead to chronic traumatic encephalopathy, then their fitness may not lead to health in the long term.
It seems clear that, by most measures, Regan Chastain is fit, probably far fitter than many people who have a lower BMI. That said, there do seem to be some long-term risks associated with fat which can affect health but it can be rather complicated:
I posted a really long comment and it’s vanished. Did it end up in the spam filter?
Found it!
Have you read any of the posts on http://www.fathealth.com ? There are also many links.
Wow that commenting individual was truly nasty and hateful! Someone needs some therapy or to go back through kindergarten and learn some manners. There are all kinds of things I despise (child molestors, cruelty to animals, poverty and starvation due to wildly unequable distribution of weatlh) but the number of chins someone has isn’t on that list.
Here’s why I love you, (well, one reason anyway):
“they have clearly been feeding themselves…”
Julie
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